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Not So Silent Bob

cday
Frequent Flyer C

Many of you reached out to us via Twitter last night and today regarding a situation a Customer Twittered about that occurred on a Southwest flight.  It is not our customary method of Customer Relations to be so public in how we work through these situations, but with so many people involved in the occurrence, you also should be involved in the solution. First and foremost, to Mr. Smith; we would like to echo our Tweets and again offer our heartfelt apologies to you.   We are sincerely sorry for your travel experience on Southwest Airlines. 

As soon as we saw the first Tweet from Mr. Smith, we contacted him personally to apologize for his experience and to address his concerns on both Twitter and with a personal phone call. Since the situation has received a lot of public attention, we'd like to take the opportunity to address a few of the specifics here as well.

Mr. Smith originally purchased two Southwest seats on a flight from Oakland to Burbank – as he’s been known to do when traveling on Southwest.  He decided to change his plans and board an earlier flight to Burbank, which technically means flying standby. As you may know, airlines are not able to clear standby passengers until all Customers are boarded. When the time came to board Mr. Smith, we had only a single seat available for him to occupy. We are responsible for the Safety and comfort of all Customers on the aircraft and therefore, we made a judgment call that Mr. Smith needed more than one seat to complete his flight. Our Employees explained why the decision was made, accommodated Mr. Smith on a later flight, and issued him a $100 Southwest travel voucher for his inconvenience.

You've read about these situations before. Southwest instituted our Customer of Size policy more than 25 years ago. The policy requires passengers that can not fit safely and comfortably in one seat to purchase an additional seat while traveling. This policy is not unique to Southwest Airlines and it is not a revenue generator. Most, if not all, carriers have similar policies, but unique to Southwest is the refunding of the second seat purchased (if the flight does not oversell) which is greater than any revenue made (full policy can be found here). The spirit of this policy is based solely on Customer comfort and Safety. As a Company committed to serving our Customers in Safety and comfort, we feel the definitive boundary between seats is the armrest. If a Customer cannot comfortably lower the armrest and infringes on a portion of another seat, a Customer seated adjacent would be very uncomfortable and a timely exit from the aircraft in the event of an emergency might be compromised if we allow a cramped, restricted seating arrangement.

1,758 Comments
Anonymous2388
Explorer C
I hate you for not letting him on. You are mean and not what i thought you were
Smitty
Explorer C
If I may quote you Christi: "You've read about these situations before. Southwest instituted our Customer of Size policy more than 25 years ago. So... 25 years later and Southwest Airlines is still enforcing and operating the same policies!? You would think that over time a company would grow, listen and adapt to their customers wants and needs... and do things like I don't know, maybe engineer the seats a bit bigger!? I mean COME ON!! 2 OUT OF 3 AMERICANS ARE OVERWEIGHT!!! Maybe its time AFTER 25 YEARS to unearth and dust off that 25 year old policy book and actually get your heads back into keeping your customers happy!!!! Another lost customer of Southwest Airlines. Oh yeah... great apology Christi- its a good thing that such a big and wonderful airline has the time and money to pay someone who actually knows how to sympathize.
Anonymous3240
Explorer C
For shame. I'm glad this incident happened so I know about the discriminator practices of this airline. At least I can avoid this situation for my self, my friends, and my family by never ever doing business with you again. Had this just been a mistake and corrective action been taken to fix it, it would be a completely different story. To think you stand by this behavior with this hollow apology is worse than the incident its self. For all you people praising SWA's protection of your safety. You should listen to Natali's story. The woman on the second flight that they made a show out of. There was NO safety issue there. There was already an empty "fatty" seat between her and kevin. http://smodcast.com/smods/smodcast107.html For shame SWA.
Chip_Phelps
Explorer C
I had preferred to use SW air for all my flights, business and personal. However I'm not a small man. Not as big as Kevin Smith, bit still larger than average and worried that I might get booted off of my next flight by one of your Fat-Nazis. When people fly, they are limited in options and usually limited in time such that missing a flight for any reason will cause huge problems down the line. So if I miss a flight because someone kicks me off for being overweight, I may lose my job for not being at a client site when I was supposed to be. For example, I had an issue one time where a delay in Raleigh made me miss a connection flight in Las Vegas, the last flight of the night, to my final destination of Orange County California. So I rented a car and drove all night (to Irvine, CA) to make sure I made it to the client site first thing in the morning as was expected. Now I hear that Kevin Smith (AND OTHERS) have been pulled off your flights even though they still fit in the seat, seat belts and armrests included, by SouthWest Fat-Nazis. This should NEVER happen to anyone. I've had a few bad experiences (not relating to this subject) with SouthWest, but nowhere near the experiences I've had with other airlines, so I always stuck with SW. The problem is that I can't afford to be "stuck" because of a problem that one of your employees have with my size. I want someone to DETAIL any policies that you have in writing with weight limits and waist size limits, etc. Something absolute and someone to call in case I ever get stuck dealing with a Fat-Nazi like Susanne from Oakland California. You've also made headlines for pulling people off of flights because you didn't like the way they were dressed as well. You say that “Our #1 Mission is Customer Service”, how can that be true when you treat customers like that? The policy is totally subjective to the perceptions of the individual SW CSA. This makes it abusive when applied randomly. When I fly to a client site my livelihood is on the line. I can't afford to deal with this kind of insanity.
Danny2
Explorer C
So while it's ok to hate the fatties, can you make a policy against blacks, Jews, gays, and techies as well? Let's just have a good old fashion clan meeting! I'm sure your captain would luv to show! Let's face it, this is a human rights violation. A hate crime. Look at the language throughout this board. It makes me almost as sick as SWA. KS posed no threat. The pilot was singling him out because he doesn't like overweight people. He should have been fired, not defended. I hope someone takes you on because I don't think it would take much for a jury to set a nice precedent here. As for me, I am canceling 4 upcoming SWA flights tomorrow.
Anonymous2548
Explorer C
If you are too big for one seat then you just are and you know it. Larger people don't mind purchasing two seats, there is more room to relax in. Mr. Smith is not large enough to warrant two seats by the airlines own description of the requirements for passengers needing more than one seat. If you don't like sitting next to fat people don't fly, they don't complain about being squeezed next to you and you awful perfume, or breath. If you think you are a pleasure to sit beside you are foolish. I my business nor its customers will fly Southwest.
Former_SWA_Cust
Explorer C
Im sure the pilot made the call not thinking that Kevin would blow up his world and his employer on twitter. Serves the pilot right and I hope he pays the price.I just hope he spent as much time on his pre flight as he did trying to "Protect" his other pasangers.Based on SWA response it sounds like SWA goal is to just sweep this under the rug. Bottom line is their policy is a judgment call without consistency. If I were Kevin with the resourses he has, I would quit the talking on twitter and stuff a high priced lawyer down SWA throat! Gee I wonder what award SWA will win this year ??
Scott4
Explorer C
So here is my view. To prevent my wife from embarrassment (She would meet the requirements of a normal passenger), I would rather use a different airline.
Anonymous1387
Explorer C
Worst customer service ever. Although this wouldn't affect me, hiding policy's that are not even enforced as written is bullshit. RAZZIE for worst customer service of an Airline anyone?
Anonymous4005
Explorer C
I too am a "person of size" (thanks to meds + diabetes) plus I am wheelchair-bound, disabled (paraplegic) and extremely tall. Due to their discriminatory policies I will NEVER fly SW. Ever.
Anonymous2932
Explorer C
You really, really messed up. And you've only made it worse. Mr. Smith has personality and public good will in spades. You don't. You have so much more to lose from this senseless fight. I cannot believe your PR group and your customer reps are so clueless. YOU CANNOT SNOW KEVIN SMITH! Everyone knows that. Bad call. Very bad call. My family and I will never fly with you again.
Anonymous3664
Explorer C
Airlines sell space. If you can't fit into your space without imposing on others, you must buy more space. Airlines are businesses, not charities. It's simple logic.
Kirk_Jorgenson
Explorer C
I have had the unpleaseant experience where the only open seat was between two very large women who had each lifted the arm rest up. when i went to lower the arm rests prior to sitting down, both women began to loudly complain. the flight attendant and then a member of the flight crew came and explained to the women they had to purchase an extra seat if they wanted to keep the arm rest up. I support Soutwest's policy.
Anonymous3664
Explorer C
Given all these comments from the girthy folk about refusing to fly Southwest anymore, I may ONLY fly Southwest from here on! This is GREAT! Can you guys tell me what airline you'll fly instead so I can avoid it?
Anonymous1027
Explorer C
This blog should be renamed "Not So Silent BLOB"
Moby
Explorer C
what about Natali. sw has not apologized to her, have nit contacted her. sw also didnt ask the other fat people who kevin saw on the flight to leave. i have flown sw before and been stuck between 2 fatties. no one was concerned about my well bing. i will never fly SW nor will my company.
Nathanial
Explorer C
As was stated before, the armrests were lowered in accordance with your policy. Please explain why the action happened despite the lack of infringment on that above stated definitive boundry?
Anonymous2469
Explorer C
How dare you?! Handicapped people would be a safety issue, yet you would never deny them! Children and elderly too! 50% of Americans are fat, you just lost a lot of business! I will never fly your airline!!! What is the weight limit? Do you inform people of this when they buy a ticket from you??? Do we have to stand on a scale before we board, or measure our waists? Why did you wait until he was already on the Plane? Prejudice against fat people should end!!!
Jesse_Eisenberg
Explorer C
What an awful non-apology. Completely outrageous. I really hope this incident hurts Southwest and doesn't stop hurting it until there are solid policy changes. BOYCOTT SOUTHWEST. BOYCOTT SOUTHWEST. BOYCOTT SOUTHWEST. BOYCOTT SOUTHWEST.
Anonymous1491
Explorer C
Hahahaha. Where do we draw the line here ? 250 pounds? 300 pounds? Or is it a question of molecular mass? I'm curious, somebody must've complained to the pilot?
CoachLowell
Explorer C
Should the innocent "by-sitter" suffer with insufficient room due to the possibility that the large person in the adjacent seat to not have his or her feelings hurt? Sounds like SWA has a fair policy for the customer of size and the passenger seated beside him or her. If the flight is not sold out SWA refunds the price of the second seat anyway. Win-win all around. You guys all know that SWA rocks in all other ways!
Anonymous774
Explorer C
Shame on you, Southwest: I've met Kevin Smith in person recently, and while he's a big guy, he's nowhere near what what would consider as a "safety" or "comfort" risk on a Southwest flight. If he represents the benchmark, there are a whole lot of people you'll need start throwing off your planes. But worse: you outed his information about routinely purchasing two seats, and making that the basis of denying him later? Frankly, if I had the money, I'd be doing that all the time for the sake of additional comfort. But in this case, you've penalized and sought to humiliate an individual customer-- a doubly-lucrative customer, in fact-- all the while perhaps breaching a certain amount of privacy by revealing his purchase behavior. If you think that this blog post comes close to sincerity in apology, I think you're finding out where you're wrong. If your company is embarrassed by this incident, it's with good cause, and thank the Internet for bringing it down upon you.
Amanda_F_
Explorer C
I understand SWA's concerns about safety, but the way the company approaches it seems to make no sense. If they're worried about a "too fat" passenger in regards to exiting the aircraft in the event of an emergency, then I ask this: 1. Then what about people who are taller than average? Say someone who's 6'4" - obviously they're going to be squished into their seat area as well. Is that safe? 2. And why do they allow people to put their seats back and jam their stupid seats into the front of my legs? Is that safe for when there's an emergency? 3. Or how about the passengers who put their little tables down and set up their stupid office for the duration of the flight - their laptop, their briefcase, their coffee, their PDA, etc? That probably isn't exactly safe either. There are many other safety concerns on airplanes that should be addressed if SWA wants anyone to believe their claim. (maybe also address the issue of people smacking everyone else with their overhead baggage?) Granted all this is a slippery slope, but to be honest, I don't believe that Kevin Smith's case was a safety "judgement call." If I am sitting next to an overweight person on the plane, I would appreciate it if SWA would ask ME if I'm uncomfortable. If I'm not, then LET IT GO! If I need a high-strung stewardess to fight my battles for me, I will let them know. Until then, leave it alone. And SWA: If any of your mothers have taught you any manners at all, then maybe you could have thought of a better way to handle the situation. Pulling someone off a crowded plane - for something so petty - is unacceptable. Shame on those employees.
M_Sieiro_Garcia
Explorer C
I have not had the pleasure to fly on your airline but I can tell you I do fly quite a bit. At my largest, almost 400LBs, never has anyone asked me to purchase a second seat or to leave the plane. At a lovely 200 lbs, my body still fits nicely in the seats. Yesterday I flew from Phili to DCA on US Airways. There was a gentleman of great height and size boarding. He was greeted with the same smiles as I was and those thinner than I. He got on the plane and we all flew home. It was a full flight. Credibility is king, when you have it, it's gold. When you lose it, it's a b*tch to get back. I have some travel coming up on the west coast and I had flagged some good rates on your airline but if this is how you handle someone famous, I'm not sure I'm comfortable supporting your airline. Good day to you. M Sieiro Garcia
Glanz
Explorer C
I love SW for actually enforcing their policies. I think it is so funny how worked up people are getting over this. GO SW!!!! LUV you!
Anonymous1716
Explorer C
I hate to jump on the bandwagon here, and I'm not going to call you guys liars or swear at you. But I am a bigger guy too. Not as big as Kevin, but big enough to be concerned that if I fly Southwest again, as I have numerous times, this could happen to me. So I'm afraid unless SWA makes some huge gesture and a very public mea culpa for this, I will never fly Southwest again. I recently flew Air Tran and had a wonderful experience (aside, admittedly from the bag charges) and was more than comfortable on a full flight. I don't even care so much about Kevin Smith's story (and yes I'm a fan of his so I'm predisposed to take his side) but the story of the girl Natali who was on his second flight that night who was humiliated by your employees. I've been unemployed in my life and would never normally wish any one lose their job. But I'm also a Customer Service Manager for a $10 Billion Dollar company in Chicago. Your guys failed here. Epic FAIL. The gate attendant or whatever she was that pulled Natali off that flight as well as the other SWA employees who accompanied her should at the very least be severely punished by a long suspension without pay. You've lost a couple thousand dollars worth of business a year by losing me. Not much I know. But imagine if I'm one of, say, a million other larger travelers who spend roughly the same amount each year. How's that going to affect SWA's bottom-line? Make this right. Sincerely make it right. For yourselves as much as those involved.
Anonymous4347
Explorer C
Oh hey! I'm so happy all these fat people are pissed off and won't be flying SWA anymore. Spring break anyone???
Anonymous3613
Explorer C
Way to go Southwest... you cite a 25 year old policy here. What was your smoking policy 25 years ago? Times change. In addition, Smith was kicked off the flight due to his violation of your policy. It appears he was withing the guidelines of the (outdated) policy and was still refused the service he paid for. Not to mention the fact that he was lied to... as were we, the public. In fact, it appears we are still being lied to... as you seem to be making changes to these blog entries (at least this one) without changing the date of the entry or noting any sort of correction. Nice. Real nice. What a lousy way to run a company.
Anonymous493
Explorer C
I'm surprised that SW would perpetuate this discussion by not only responding to tweets and encouraging Direct Messages, but setting up a blog? Issue a statement, learn from it and move on to servicing your other customers.
Dewey1
Explorer C
I dont generally fly sw but after hearing this you can rest assure that I will never EVER fly sw. does your company really think this message is decent and makes things better read your feed back. as for the guy who thinks ks is just after publicity you dont know bob. "all of a sudden the hydrolics kick back in and the plane rights itself, everyone puts their pieces away and deboard, no one speaks of the phenom again." -brody snoogins
Davey
Explorer C
Why stop at 17" seats, the smallest in the industry? Make the seats 15" so you can squeeze more seats onto each plane and more people will have to buy two tickets. Why put in seats at all? Just have everyone stand up for flights holding onto handrails like the subway in sky you're turning into. Are you removing the elderly, handicapped and unstrapped in babies from flights because they pose a safety risk in the event of an emergency? No, can't do that. You can pick on fatties but not grandma or babies. For all you SW supporters who don't like fatties imposing on your space, maybe if your airline of choice treated you like a valued customer and outfitted their aircraft with decent sized seats, and sufficient leg room, no one would have a problem. But that won't happen. The fatties will leave and they'll just keep downsizing your space until all you mini-me's are sitting 8 across on top of each other. Have fun, I'll never be anywhere near a SW flight.
Anonymous1860
Explorer C
Why did you change the post? Where it now reads (3rd paragraph): "We are responsible for the Safety and comfort of all Customers on the aircraft and therefore, we made a judgment call that Mr. Smith needed more than one seat to complete his flight." the original read: "Our pilots are responsible for the Safety and comfort of all Customers on the aircraft and therefore, made a judgment call that Mr. Smith needed more than one seat to complete his flight." More importantly, why change the post WITHOUT NOTING THE CHANGE? Was the original an honest mistake? Fine, own up to it. Otherwise you come across as liars -- which is what Smith has been saying from the beginning.
biggoomer
Explorer C
Great revenue idea!!! *Continue to make the seating area smaller and smaller so that the average seated person is about 135 pounds (NOTE: Average Male in US is 195 lbs). *Define a "policy" that allows you to catch someone on a trip so they have no choice but to pony up with some extra cash to make it home. *Save money on gas because even though you've alloted the seat at 135 lbs, you now have one person at 195 lbs that paid for two seats, net 75 pounds for the seat and maybe another 50 for luggage and carry ons. *Create a biggoted consideration that all people over 135 pounds are "slobs". Bearing in mind that Michael Phelps, who some might consider the most athletic human being on the planet, has a BMI that qualifies him as OVERWEIGHT. I guarantee you sit next to that man and he is going to "encroach" on the seat next to him. *Smokers are ok because they don't smoke on the plane, and of course they all brush their teeth and don't drink coffee so they smell like daisies. *Traveling with a kid? Let's have sound proof cages at the back of the plane of better yet, require the parents to tranquilize them before they board. A cork would be appropriate to eliminate any poopy diapers. Let's talk "Safety". Then let's eliminate half the elderly who board a plane as "getting in the way", let alone those folks who are mobility or mentally challenged. Don't let some damned little kid get in your way when you rushing out the aisle of your sinking airplane, sitting in the aisle crying for his Mommy. How damn pathetic!!! Serve the customer! ALL the customers! Be reasonable with the space. Don't press it to the point where you've crammed in so many "minis" that you can't accommodate the RANGE THAT IS HUMANLY and REASONABLY possible. Charge MORE for everyone, or be prepared to charge everyone like you do freight...a set cost, up front and expected. I'll bet that at the root of all of this, there is a manager who is holed up in his office with his knees to his chest, wishing that during that mornings meeting he was less than zealous in his challenge to his staff to find ways to increase revenue and happened to point out an obscure and rarely executed 25 year old policy. May to go for that guy! I can only say how thankful I am that it happened now and that no airline in their right mind is going to bug me when I fly in a couple of months for vacation. And to all you "normals" out there who are picking on people bigger than you...how very petty you really are, we can lose weight, you will always be PUNY.
Anonymous3259
Explorer C
I'm not that huge, but there's no way I'm going to fly SW again unless they come out and apologize, AND change this ridiculous policy of theirs. I just pray to god no one gets stuck w/ SW stock if they decide not to apologize for this.
Anonymous1499
Explorer C
WOW, just WOW. What an epic FAIL in PR for you guys. Nice non-apology apology you got there. Is it possible that you actually believe this post will do anything at all to address just how wrong you were? If this is advice you're actually paying some PR flak to give you fire him/her immediately because it's quite obvious you don't get it and are bleeding customers by the buckets and this post makes you look like idiots who could care less about your customers. You're wrong, apologize for being wrong and stop lying about what happened. Just despicable .. I will never, under any circumstances fly SWA again!
Trystian
Explorer C
Firstly, Airlines need to make seats larger. I get that you need to make money, but have you seen ANY of the studies and reports that most Americans are overweight? I am a considered a normal size American (by todays standards), but I barely fit in ANY airline seat, regardless of carrier. I can put the armrests down, but the last year or so, I typically need a seatbelt extender. My size and/or weight hasn't changed at all in the last ten years, but the seats and/or seatbelts seem to be getting smaller. Why is that? Perhaps you should take some of that bailout money, and make the seating a bit more comfortable for TODAY's average sized Americans instead of giving your Executives pay raises for doing sh***y jobs. More to the point, Kevin Smith WAS able to easily put his armrests down, and buckle up (without an extender), and didn't 'flow' into the adjoining seats. How is this violating your policies? A public apology from the pilot to Kevin is needed. In my opinion, the pilot was not adhering to your policies. I have been flying regularly on Southwest Airlines, but no more. Congratulations, you've lost another customer for life. PS: Start kicking mothers with annoying/crying kids off the plane first. -Trystian
Anonymous663
Explorer C
No matter who is right or wrong. This is not the way to handle the customer. Bad job southwest.
Anonymous84
Explorer C
Why is this capitalized as if it is written in German? Safety? Customer? How annoying!
Dale10
Explorer C
You guys (SWA) just don't get it do you? To first of all post such a rude post with that title, it is you that is playing on Kevin's celebrity, not him. Then to edit the post without mentioning it, you are nothing but low-life scum. I certainly hope your stock tanks over this. For all those whiny "skinny" customers that are happy, you are welcome to SWA. I certainly hope when they start changing or implementing policies that target you in some way you will wonder why no one stands up for you. I suspect this would also fall under the American's with Disabilities act. I am a larger guy due in part to back issues and diabetes. The meds encourage weight gain, and if I do not take the meds I could die (which I realize many of you skinnies would probably prefer). Also, due to 2 herniated discs and a pinched nerve, I am limited as to how much physical activity I can participate in. I truly hope those of you that are so happy for this contract a chronic condition that negatively affects your health and then see what it is like to be discriminated against. SWA, you have lost me as a customer. Being a resident of the Dallas, TX area I have flown on your airline quite a bit in the past - never more.
Joe15
Explorer C
I'll think twice before flying Southwest again. Not because i find this situation repugnant, although I do. I'll think twice because I'm skinny enough to sit comfortably in a an airplane seat with the armrests down, but fat enough to worry about being publicly humiliated based on the arbitrary decision of a SW employee who is having a bad day. Here's a hot tip. Give your customers consistent guidelines to help determine if they need an extra seat before you humiliate them in public. Apparently the armrest rule isn't working for you. Can air travel get any more unpleasant? I'm sure you guys will find a way.
Anonymous1383
Explorer C
Very happy I stopped flying your airline. I earned enough points to get 4 round trip tickets over 3 years, but I had to put up with traveling with the unwashed masses. Never again.
Really1234
Explorer C
Safety concerns regarding timely exits due to weight? Are you kidding? What about the elderly gentleman with a cane who can't walk very fast? Gonna not let him on? What about the child with a developmental disability who might have difficulty with a 'timely exit'? Gonna kick the child off the flight? Maybe we should screen people for anxiety disorders and make sure they are not allowed to fly on your planes because a panic attack during an emergency might interfere with a 'timely exit'. What about the obviously pregnant woman who might have difficulty navigating a 'timely exit'? She won't be allowed to fly? What about a person from another country who might take extra time due to difficulty understanding potential emergency directions? Can't let people like that fly on your planes? Should we screen for people with epilepsy and not let them on the plane because they might interfere with a 'timely exit' if emergency flashing lights or sounds could cause them to seizure? Oh, and let's make sure not to let women on with high heels -- those can make fast walking very difficult during an emergency exit. How about a family with 3 or more children? Ever try to round up a group of kids and get them going on time, emergency or not? Better not let families with kids fly on your planes either. How about the slender athlete with the bad knees or trick ankles that give out if he has to walk too fast? Leave him off, too. Better not serve any alcohol on your flights either - those can really slow response time. Better not go down the aisles with those food and drink carts anymore either -- talk about blocking aisles!
Anonymous3039
Explorer C
I don't begrudge Kevin Smith his complaints because Southwest is inconsistent in applying these so called "rules". I flew out of Chicago last July and sat next to a large passenger who was one third of the way into my seat. He certainly couldn't put the arm rest down and it was plainly obvious to the flight attendants since they watched me get into my seat. Moreover, it was a full flight so I sat for 4 plus hours being squished in my seat with one side of me plastered against him and the other side against an arm rest. He was uncomfortable, I was uncomfortable but we both wanted to get home so we just dealt with it and moved on. Kevin Smith's seatmates weren't complaining and he could put arm rest down so he shouldn't have been kicked off. If Southwest has such rules that would cause them to remove Kevin from his flight, then they need to be consistent otherwise it's just lip service and BS.
mwall
Explorer C
You didn't have any trouble taking his money when he paid. He has flown with you many times, any one of these times did you inform him he is not in compliance with your policy and it is a good thing he bought two seats? It seems to me he is in compliance as he can sit with the arm rests down, but even so, he can afford 2 seats and anyone would say having 2 is more comfortable than 1 as flying is always cramped for nearly everyone. I am bigger than he is and I fly often and never had an issue with any of the airlines I used. He is not so fat that he is any kind of safety risk, what a bunch of bull. How embarrassing a situation like that would be! You should be ashamed of how you handled this even if it is your "sometimes enforced policy". I guess you have the right to make any policy you want, no fatties, no tallies, no kids, no Norwegians, no GED graduates etc.. I know I will stay clear of using southwest because of this situation. I deal with companies and people that treat me with respect and dignity and stay clear of those who don't.
Jenn1
Explorer C
I'm very disappointed in Southwest's handling of this issue. The person who earlier wrote that they are so glad that Southwest protects them from having to sit next to fat people is clearly rude. For the record, I'm not fat,but I'd LOVE to sit by Kevin Smith any day. I'd rather sit next to a fat person than you. Southwest - it is your duty to PROTECT and hold confidential all customer information Stating what Kevin Smith is "known" to do is bad business practices. My friends and I will never fly your airline.
zam
Explorer C
I've never flown southwest. I'm not even in the same hemisphere of the planet, but isn't it amazing how much reach one man has when it comes to publicity. Life's too short to deal with inconsistent liars in petty airline positions of power. Also, if there's one growing (excuse the pun) segment of our western societies, it's us fatties. I happen to have broad shoulders, but unless they introduce shoulder-rests, I'll be permitted on flights. That never stops the crew on flights from attempting to take off an arm with a drinks trolley. As they decrease the amount of leg room, does that make tall people the next to be victimised by southwest? "You must be this short to enter"
Anonymous240
Explorer C
This is awesome news for non-fat fans of Southwest. Because now fat people will be so mad they will boycott the airline and the rest of us will never have an uncomfortable flight again. Thanks, Fat Bob!
Anonymous2702
Explorer C
First let me say I applaud SouthWest for looking out for all their passengers and not letting some passengers suffer just to accommodate those that due to their size spill over into the occupied adjacent seats. We all know that seating has become more condensed on all carriers in order to offer more economical flights.....and stay in business. When I purchase a ticket the only person I want in my seat is me, not the overflow from the seat(s) next to me. I've experienced firsthand (on another airline) being wedged up against the window by a passenger that clearly was taking up two spaces. Silent Bob has been anything but silent. He has taken this incident and ridden it for all the free publicity he can get. No one ever heard of him before this but now he has "his tour dates" listed next to his comments. Hopefully if flying to those tour dates he purchases 2 seats or if the carrier has first class seating buy a "wider" seat in that area. SOUTHWEST KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!! AND THANK YOU!!
Waylo
Explorer C
Kevin Smith is a very honest and kind person. If you treated him this way, imagine how you would treat me or any other customer. This speaks volumes for your company. It sounds as if you're in too big of a hurry to get something as important as good customer relations right. Even your blog post is condescending. I'm taking my 10 flights a year over to your competitor. You may not think that my business is worth much, but if a few thousand of us switch up, maybe it will help you to focus on what is really important.
Waylo
Explorer C
Kevin Smith is a very honest and kind person. If you treated him this way, imagine how you would treat me or any other customer. This speaks volumes for your company. It sounds as if you're in too big of a hurry to get something as important as good customer relations right. Even your blog post is condescending. I'm taking my 10 flights a year over to your competitor. You may not think that my business is worth much, but if a few thousand of us switch up, maybe it will help you to focus on what is really important.