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We're codesharing with who...or is it whom...I always forget, but who cares? I should be writing this in Spanish...do you write in Spanish? Wow, I'm struggling today with what few writing skills I have,  probably because I'm so excited about the announcement of our second International codeshare partner - Volaris.
 
It's Volaris...yes Volaris! You know, if you fuse the Spanish word volar (to fly) with the word Polaris (North Star) you get Volaris? Well, that's how they came up with their name, and I think it's a pretty cool name. What's even cooler is that Volaris is an exceptional low-cost airline flying in Mexico. They are focused on high levels of Customer Service and provide a great inflight experience. Volaris plans to begin flying in to the US sometime in 2009 and will become Southwest Airlines' Mexico codeshare partner in early 2010. If you haven't heard of Volaris, here's a little information that should give you a feel for them and why we think they will be a great partner!
 
Like our new codeshare partner WestJet, Volaris presently serves some pretty cool destinations...or should I say hot destinations! Places like Cancun, Cabo, Puerto Vallarta, and Acapulco are certainly great places to vacation. Mexico City (via Toluca), Monterrey, and Guadalajara are great business travel destinations and will complement our efforts to attract more business travelers.
 
Also, like WestJet, Volaris has a fun corporate culture. On one of our visits to their Headquarters, their VP of Sales was having his head shaved in front of the Volaris Employees—it was payback for the Employees who had met a revenue goal that he challenged them to meet. Their Employees are very energetic and love their airline. Their Customers join in the fun as well. They recently had an inflight concert! My favorite Customer experience was influenced by the free tequila and cerveza they served! They also give away Krispy Kreme donuts! It's a regular Fiesta!!! Oh yes, and every Volaris plane is named after one of their valued Customers. I can't wait to see Ricardo!
 
Unlike WestJet, Volaris is an unknown brand in the US. Although they are relatively small and certainly new (they began flying in 2006), Volaris has proven themselves itself as a successful and viable airline and are developing a new generation of flyers in Mexico. Coupled with the Southwest brand, network, and Customer base, the opportunities are huge.
 
Okay, enough of my rambling, whadoyouthink? 
 

 

302 Comments
Herb_wannabe
Explorer C
The problem with all of this is no one knows where Gary Kelly is taking our airline. What is the 5-10 year plan. It appears it's just to codeshare and line the company pockets with money at the expense of the employees. I say this because Gary hasn't said a word about what direction he wants to take the company. If it's to codeshare then take over the routes ourselves then we need to know the plan. Right now I'm ready to listen but if there is continued silence then I need not go the extra mile to help anyone.
Anonymous1198
Explorer C
Thanks Gary for killing my investment. I have invested in Southwest stock for over 20 years because I had faith in their Management. I think you just convinced me to take my money elseware. Why would I believe in a management team that doesn't believe in his own employees. Southwest jets should be going to Canada and Mexico.
Anonymous1483
Explorer C
all the while truly giving America the Freedom to Fly... ***** To the 62 destinations that we had and will have until the bitter end. If your plans include Mexico or Canada we'll give you the freedom of boarding a foreign carrier that will do what we don't dare to. And that's freedom!
Anonymous2194
Adventurer C
As a decades long customer, I am troubled by many of the comments written regarding this subject. Do I wish that SWA was in position to directly offer me expanded travel opportunities beyond the 48 states? Of course I do. Do I understand why management might not feel comfortable with that decision in the current environment given the investment that would be required? Yes. Will I accept a codeshare arrangement as "Plan B" to get my family to a Cancun vacation (or some yet unnamed Caribbean destination with a new partner)? Absolutely. And when my family of 4 boards the "LUV" leg of our flight on one of the Canyon Blue birds at LAX or FLL or wherever the link occurs, I trust that the smiling crew that greets us will remember that it was my credit card that paid a few bills that day. I appreciate that there is frustration because of the current slow growth business model. But if the alternative to that is judged to be quarterly losses and bankruptcy, then don't we all lose in the process? By the way, thank you Mr. Kelly and staff for the nice "Winter Sale" that started today. Flying had become expensive (fuel, I know) and necessarily more infrequent. As of this moment, I have a total of 7 round trip tickets booked for myself and members of my immediate family between now and mid February. All on that little SWA credit card with a bill that hits my own mailbox once each month.
Anonymous3718
Explorer C
Responding to, "Don't fly code-share flights! fly JetBlue, Frontier, Continental, AA, United, Spirit, Airtran, Delta and all the other American carriers that will take you to Mexico and Canada on THEIR OWN metal and will be held accountable in case something goes wrong!" Are you kidding me? Do you really think that a Canadian carrier won't be held accountable? Better yet, do you really think that a Canadian carrier won't hold itself accountable? Give your head a shake. Do you know anything about Canada, Canadian standards, Canadian regulations? Here's a crash course: meets or exceeds any US standard. By the way, since clearly there are experts in this blog that have failed to identify this so far: When you fly international you are governed by rules set forth under the Montreal Convention. Canada has signed it, the US has signed it. That means the air carrier under the signatory countries will follow those same rules so long as both countries have signed it. None of the codeshare and transborder flight 'experts' have identified that yet. Also, if you fly United Airlines to Canada, you have a really good chance of actually flying on Air Canada metal. That's called Star Alliance. Again, a simple oversight during the fear mongering... Further, codeshare does not just take Southwest passengers and funnel them to a Canadian carrier, it goes the other way too--Canadians accustomed to a high level of service that will feel very different once boarding their Southwest flight in the US are going to be coming to you from Westjet. Westjet customers! Treat them well! Reading this blog makes me fearful for them.
Marc9
Explorer C
As an employee I feel this is a bad move not only for the employees which helped build this airline, but for the customer who is going to fly on an unknown airline which began operating just 2 years ago. Mexico, Canada and the Caribbean can easily be flown by SWA employees on SWA aircraft. If I were the CEO I would double check my beans.
Anonymous2785
Explorer C
It's a good thing Herb didn't have the same level of "insight" that GK has been showing - or SWA WOULD HAVE NEVER LEFT THE STATE OF TEXAS! BRING BACK HERB.
Anonymous4117
Explorer C
So because they are leased they must not provided a job for you in the GO. Good to know. Question...What has Gary said our net growth might be next year? That's right 0%. So instead of taking our new deliveries and extending the leases on the -300 providing jobs for many people, we are going to return aircraft and grow our route structure through different companies. How's that for outsourcing. Question...What has Westjet said their growth going to be next year after the codeshare news? That's right 15%. How about Volaris? About 20%. So good old Southwest 0%, Westjet 15%, and Volaris 20%. But that doesn't matter, you already have YOUR job. How's that for a reality check? *********** Bravo!
Anonymous770
Explorer C
>>>>And when my family of 4 boards the "LUV" leg of our flight on one of the Canyon Blue birds at LAX or FLL or wherever the link occurs, I trust that the smiling crew that greets us will remember that it was my credit card that paid a few bills that day. ************ That's part of the problem. Gary wants to sell tickets without the "LUV Leg" as you call it on one of our airplanes via Southwest.com. You buy a ticket from LAX to Mexico all on another airline, making Southwest no better that the travel agency at your local mall. But no worry, I don't really need a job I guess, as long as that ticket cost $10 less.
Anonymous1807
Explorer C
Introducing codeshare at this time is dangerous. All unionized employess work under a labor agreement and once something is negotiated and agreed to, there is little that one can do to change course. If codeshare ends up a net positive for profits, even by a small measure, the labor groups will have to live with their current lot in life at the company. You cannot put the genie back in the bottle. Working holidays, weekends, nights, less productive trips and flying as a co-pilot for extended durations will become the norm as a result of stagnation and no growth. Slowing growth can be an effective tool; but given our financial position and adaptive nature, we should be monopolizing on these rare oppportunities to grab lucrative market share, and backfill where the legacies have started reductions. International flying IS more complicated; however, this is the most productive, innovative, and proven empoyee group in the airline industry. Our company is poised and ready to meet any challenge. Southwest Airlines' management needs to trust its product and its people to deliver. Aside from the economic and quality of life issues that employees complain about, placing our brand at the feet of many unproven hands has the potential of catastrophically detstroying 37 years of hard work and loyalty. I have had experience with passengers not being accomodated in the same manner on an ATA flight that they were accustomed on Southwest. "Unfortunately, you don't fly to XXXX. ATA is my only alternative and if it weren't for my rapid rewards, I would fly American internationally." This is not what I want to hear from our passengers. Sadly, when you surrender control of you product, you have little choice but to accept the results. My hope is that SWA will find its moxy and return to the fight. Our travelling futures depend on a healthy and Spirited Southwest. The Southwest we are writing about is healthy, but not as Spirited.
Anonymous3984
Explorer C
Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sorry if this was already mentioned, but if we were to ever dream of flying our own planes over the borders, we would be required by the FAA to have a passenger manifest and assigned seating on that flight. The day we buy used DC10's or add a 2nd lavatory in the back of our 737s is the day we will offer assigned seating. It ain't gonna happen kids so give it up. I've come to the realization that I will never work an international flight of any kind at Southwest and I'm over hoping for it. But, I'd rather work 100% domestic flights with a bit of job security than wake up on a layover in Paris wondering if my airline is going to still be around.
Anonymous2930
Explorer B
>>>So because they are leased they must not provided a job for you in the GO Has nothing to do with it. The poster I was responding to linked the retired -300 now sitting on the MX ramp to the supposed job losses that will supposedly result from the latest international codeshare (which, BTW, won't start until at least 2010), and the linkage is flawed--one has nothing to do with the other, which your very own next question confirms: >>>What has Gary said our net growth might be next year? That's right 0%. So instead of taking our new deliveries and extending the leases on the -300 providing jobs for many people, we are going to return aircraft and grow our route structure through different companies. I assume that you know how to read a calendar, but if not, that net 0% growth is for next year, 2009 (due to the economy) and not the year after, 2010, when the codeshare starts. It amazes me how some of you folks can't help but keep comparing apples to oranges, and then wondering why folks disagree with your conclusions, and then have resort to name-calling with those who do disagree. As I've stated before, I think international code sharing is a smart, cost-effective way for SWA to mitigate the cost risk compared with flying our own metal to these places from Day-1. Codesharing agreements aren't eternal, they can (and do) lapse/expire. That said, if the really wild rumor about Republic taking over some existing domestic short-haul flying ala' what happened at Midwest Express actually does end up coming true, that's a completely different kettle of fish, and I'm right there with you. (Personally, I doubt that rumor will happen). Unlike the angry mobs with pitchforks and burning torches that seem to be ready to storm the castle based on rumors, misinformation, misconceptions, emotions, and fear, I'll wait to see adverse actions have actually taken before I react. Oh yeah, Gary Kelly indeed isn't Herb, but isn't that the epitome of being a tough act to follow? He's got my support, and why the 5-10 year plan (whatever it is) isn't common knowledge to all employees should be able to be figured out by anyone with a bit of common sense.
CorndogFlyer
Explorer C
John, I'm not sure if you saw it, but we're already taking losses. Last quarter was our first in 19 years. And don't forget we've endured other fireworks too: We had a record FAA fine levied against us for lack of basic maintenance oversight by the finance guy now running flight operations. We've witnessed numerous operational meltdowns out on line due to poor staffing during our heaviest holiday travel periods. We now have all major labor contracts now open at the same time. We're losing our shirts right now as a company thanks to a bunch of crazy hedging contracts which were signed this summer at the peak of the energy cycle. And we're selling and deferring aircraft deliveries from Boeing. Remember those Fort airplanes? How much did we pay to buy, overhaul, and significantly modify them only to turn them back for sale only months later. I mean how hard can this be? As managers, you get handed over the reigns to the most profitable, stable, and debt free airline in the history of the United States and within a matter of just a few years all heck seems to break loose every time the employees turn around. Take your head out of the sand, and look around you. This is not a union vs. management thing. This is just incompetent management holed up in a bunker called Dallas. ONCE YOU LOOSE THE UNIONIZED LABOR GROUPS, YOU WILL NEVER GET THEM BACK : (
Volaris_custome
Explorer C
I wonder if anybody wonders about the Volaris effect (reversed). I have flown Volaris and they have brand-spaking-new state-of-the-art A319's with an impeccable cabin, black leather seats, superb service delivered by elegant Flight Attendants and 3 lavatories! I wonder what customers switching to one of Southwest stinky -300's will think?
Anonymous3290
Explorer C
Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sorry if this was already mentioned, but if we were to ever dream of flying our own planes over the borders, we would be required by the FAA to have a passenger manifest and assigned seating on that flight. The day we buy used DC10's or add a 2nd lavatory in the back of our 737s is the day we will offer assigned seating. It ain't gonna happen kids so give it up. ********** Agree! Is a cultural thing, folks. We don't know how to do it! My advise: If you really want to fly internationally quit Southwest TODAY. Work for JetBlue or Continental, they are great companies too. It ain't gonna happen. Get Over! Again: No matter what Gary Kelly says in the Message to the Field, HE IS LYING. (to appease you and Wall Street) one more time: SOUTHWEST AIRLINES WILL NEVER FLY INTERNATIONAL. NE-VER, NUNCA, JAMAIS!
Anonymous4572
Explorer C
Keep up the good work Mr. Kelly. Soon Southwest will be like Delta. The LUV is gone.
Volaris_custome1
Explorer C
PS: They also have TV's and assigned seating!
Anonymous4106
Explorer C
response to anonymous "Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sorry if this was already mentioned, but if we were to ever dream of flying our own planes over the borders, we would be required by the FAA to have a passenger manifest and assigned seating on that flight." The FAA already requires a passenger manifest or electronic equivalent for domestic flights. ICAO standards do not require seat assignments ( RyanAir has open seating), and I can find no FAA requirements for assigned seats. With all due respect, I don't care if I ever operate an international flight myself. That's not the point, as our domestic flying can be outsourced even more easily than our international flights.
Anonymous3796
Explorer C
This sucks but is not a surprise at all. Just another big "SHUT UP!" to all the pilots that start the day with a grin and the "latest scoop": e.g. -We are opening CUN next year, Gary told me or -My brother called me saying that we are putting signs in SJU!... pleeeease, this is a good wake-up call, stop spreading stupid rumors! They don't trust us in Mexico or Puerto Rico! He he
Anonymous169
Explorer C
As a shareholder, I'm dismayed that LUV would be content with no or negative growth only to expand the operations of a competitor. Furthermore, as an investor in general, it's sad to see the newly growing competitor to Southwest doesn't even fly Made-in-the-USA aircraft. When the rest of my capital returns to the Market, I'll keep these data points in mind.
Anonymous770
Explorer C
>>>So because they are leased they must not provided a job for you in the GO Has nothing to do with it. ********* Surprise how did I know that you work in the GO. Yes I understand that we are not retiring THOSE particular aircraft because of THIS particular codeshare, and I realize that nobody is being directly laid off. The apples to apples comparison that you cannot seem to understand while we are growing ZERO which equals about 80 jobs per aircraft (including GO jobs) we choose to use a competitor to grow our route structure (zero GO jobs). I could care less if we ever fly to Canada or Mexico. What I do care about is increasing our presence with our aircraft, and crews. All I hear is that there are so many places that we could fly to here in the US...OK let's do it. How is zero growth while allowing other companies to do fly that we could EASILY do accomplishing that. If not there then where? What this is is a simple cost effective way to give our future coworkers jobs away to someone who will do it for much cheaper. You are fooling yourself if you think that those jobs are ever going to come back. I have not called you any names, but I think that you need to get out into the real world of this industry that we work in, and give me one good example of an airline that this has been a good things for the employees. That is the real REALITY.
Anonymous3428
Explorer C
True. Volaris looks "High class" compared to Southwest...
Anonymous169
Explorer C
As a shareholder, I'm dismayed that LUV would be content with no or negative growth only to expand the operations of a competitor. Furthermore, as an investor in general, it's sad to see the newly growing competitor to Southwest doesn't even fly Made-in-the-USA aircraft. When the rest of my capital returns to the Market, I'll keep these data points in mind.
Anonymous2194
Adventurer C
As I see there was a post directed at me I will respond. I do not for one minute pretend to be an expert at business modeling a profitable airline. I know for a fact that most, if not all, other US airlines lose money by the boatloads and move in and out of bankruptcy seemingly every year. SWA has been the exception to the rule so management must have done something right through the years. Maybe that was Herb. Maybe that's not Gary. I don't know any of these people personally and am not in a position to judge their talents. I am simply saying that if a business cannot enter a new venture profitably than it shouldn't do it. If it does, everyone's existing job is at risk. Those of you who strongly believe that international expansion via your own metal is the way to go may be absolutely right. Your management seems to think otherwise. Maybe they are right. I'm just glad that SWA is looking for ways to serve me, the customer, so I don't have to buy that American Airlines ticket.
Anonymous2847
Explorer C
Wonder if Volaris hires US citizens... Mmmmm. I should go to work for them and fly International. How exciting!!!! Volaris hire me! I'm a good Flight Attendant! I can work an international flight!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous705
Explorer C
This employee just lost that loving feeling. Chris
Concerned2
Explorer C
My company is planning to put its passengers on a foreign carrier with TWO years experience as an airline!!?? YIKES!!! What will Southwest's exposure be if this start-up airline has an incident? Can they have a substantial track record after only two years? How is their maintenance? Are their crews qualified? I would be very, very, very leery of buying a ticket on a foreign, start-up airline--much less linking my future to them. Too bad we apparently can't figure out how to grow our company into these destinations ourselves!
LauraB
Explorer C
It's just about the gates at Midway!! Trust us!!
joe-mdw-plane-d
Frequent Flyer C
"I'm not sure if you saw it, but we're already taking losses. Last quarter was our first in 19 years" False. Our profit was 69 million. There will be profitsharing on this. This "loss" was paper only and related to the devaluation of the hedges. "Remember those Fort airplanes? How much did we pay to buy, overhaul, and significantly modify them only to turn them back for sale only months later. " False. The ford airplanes are still in the fleet. 270 and 271 have been reconfigured and 550 and 551 will be done later. "We're losing our shirts right now as a company thanks to a bunch of crazy hedging contracts which were signed this summer at the peak of the energy cycle. " False again look at the 10q report for the facts on the hedging values. You have our contracts confused with someone elses.
_______________1
Explorer C
The stock is soaring to $10 on this monumental announcement. I wonder how much money our esteemed management leaders have invested in WestJet and Volaris? SWA is dead. Anybody know the telephone number of that truck driving school?
Anonymous3693
Explorer C
If you guys think I'm going to trust my family's lives to a Mexican airline that has been flying for all of two years than you really are NUTS!
Gary_Kelly_is_v
Explorer C
Gary is violating an agreement with the pilots, selling another carriers flights on the SWA website. It's about violating the trust he seems to feel is irrelevant in making a few marginal dollars.
Loss_of_LUV
Explorer C
Not one GO employee will suffer a paycut that EVERY Flight Attendant and Pilot will take as SWA slows growth, and cuts capacity. This is the difference, the frontline employee taking it in the shorts so the folks in the GO can continue having spirit parties. Thats why parking jets is a bad idea.
AustinGirl
Explorer C
Its like I told my ex-husband when I gave up on him, "I know you gotta good heart but you lied, you went with another, and you came home with a disease that's hurt us both." Gary honey, you got a disease and I'm afraid in the airline union world, there ain't always a cure. You made your bed sweetie, but I know you still got a good heart deep down.
concerned
Explorer C
I am overwhelmingly concerned. I'd hoped to be at SWA for 25 + years, but it's starting to look like it (SWA) won't be around for that long. This is the beginning of the destruction of "that legendary Southwest culture" and potentially the entire company. I have no faith in this decision because it's the wrong one, but I do have faith that someone can turn this around! Let US go to Mexico! Let US go to Canada! If those companies can grow 15%+ a year on our backs I think we can take advantage of the same situation and do the job ourselves much better, especially to Mex and Can. Obviously there is opportunity there! I hope we can get together and realize WE ARE the best, most efficient, and most profitable airline out there and WE should be taking care of business, instead of farming out our name and product and guaranteing 'positively outrageous service' on a start-up Mexican airline that's 2 years old with no track record on aviation safety, service, or business. Let's actually get back to what Southwest Airlines does best!!!
Vetran_Pilot_Em
Explorer C
Rest in Peace: "Treat the employee well, they treat the customer well, and in-turn, the share holders are made happy!" This mantra has been turned on its head. This airline is all about the return on investment and SHORT TERM share holder profits. This isn't your Father's airline anymore. I would not let my family fly on Volaris if the tickets were free. They will be riskier than Southwest PERIOD!
Anonymous3984
Explorer C
From what it looks like, they have a very nice product with (what a concept) professional looking flight attendant uniforms and flip down video screens...and most likely, assigned seating. At least we chose to team up with what looks to be a nice carrier. Copy and paste this link and scroll down for cabin photos: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/theaviator/Guadalajara/DSC_0304.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/99550/&h=531&w=799&sz=152&hl=en&start=37&usg=__r6NE5Q4sXytZDHpxm6TgCQc9ZSs=&tbnid=ZRQOGBqvnvjuWM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3DVolaris%2BAirlines%2Bcabin%26start%3D36%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
Anonymous4423
Explorer C
Quote "This is the difference, the frontline employee taking it in the shorts so the folks in the GO can continue having spirit parties. " And parades
Another_angry_p
Explorer C
Somebody should send a transcript of this blog to Wall Street and the press, so they know how we really feel about this crap!
WNPilot
Explorer C
In theory we can code-share every future destination, because there is always going to be another airline willing to do it cheaper and take all the risks, do the paperwork, etc. I guess that we are planning to live off our website and good reputation for years to come... Take notice Wall Street ! I predict that our stock is going to hit the $5 mark within weeks...
Anonymous4423
Explorer C
Quote "Volaris looks "High class" compared to Southwest" And your point is? So does Jet Blue, American, Delta, United, etc. Must be because of all the profits they made the last few years. Oh wait, they haven't made money in years... My bad Bottom line here is that no airline employee wants to see another airline struggle or employees lose their jobs, the issue at hand is the outsourcing of travel to another airline when Southwest employees are more than capable of doing the job. Seniority has already stagnated due to zero growth which has turned short term quality of life issues into long term quality of life issues for pilots and flight attendants. FOFL First Officer For Life
Anonymous2930
Explorer B
>>>Somebody should send a transcript of this blog to Wall Street and the press, so they know how we really feel about this crap! Brilliant idea. Notwithstanding the fact that the relative handful of negative comments here do not automatically translate into being the opinions of 30,000 employees, the media will assume they do and report that. When the stock declines due to reports of "labor discord", everyone here will act surprised, and blame that decline on Gary too....
Flight_attendan11
Explorer C
Well, I'm the optimist of the bunch. Let's start a group and come up with creative and cost efficient solutions to this dilemma and offer it to Gary. If we put our hearts and minds into this we can be teaching Airtran, Frontier, JetBlue, Spirit and even Ryanair how to work and deliver an awesome low-cost international product within a year! Let's do it!
HotPantHoney
Explorer C
I got nada against our dear friends south of the border. But we're the (bleep) airline when it comes to airlines and all of a sudden we're gonna put our mayonnaise on someone else's sandwich? Not this tired old momma, I'm sorry.
Anonymous237
Explorer C
Those of you with the "testing the waters" theory make me chuckle. Do you really think that Southwest Airlines (specially Kelly) after seeing how he can turn a quick profit (with so little risk and effort) is going to enter those markets with our metal? Y'all are on crack! This is the end of "Southwest, the real airline" and the beginning of the "Virtual Southwest". It has been discussed even in the WSJ the "doing more with less" doctrine is here to stay. You are now working for a travel agency... get used to it!
8-yearFA
Explorer C
When do the next round of "early retirement" starts? I'm ready to go to work for Continental and fly destinations that matter! Buh bye....
Anonymous3224
Explorer C
The saddest part of this tragedy is that the great mayority of our employees are soooooo brainwashed they believe every word management utters. They are clueless, just repeating the slogans they heard in the msg to the field like parrots! They are CONVINCED that these code-share outsourcing is the best thing ever!
Sarah_Hannagan
Explorer C
Hi Gary, Mike (our ATA hero!), and Laura, What happens if this type of anger makes it to the analyst community? I hold a lot of ESPP stock. A lot. I am an avid investor and something here has me very alarmed. I've noticed that when a previous high flyer falls from grace in the investment community, it is rare that it redeems itself. I'm talking here of the Ciscos, Walmarts, and GEs. So I'm asking you is this marginal codeshare revenue really worth the loss of your employee groups and how much money have you budgeted in your analysis for a backlash? See what I mean?
Anonymous27
Explorer C
This is a sad, sad day.
Anonymous2927
Explorer C
Let's see, ATA used to fly to DEN, RSW, SFO, and MSP....and now where does SWA fly to? DEN,RSW,SFO, and soon MSP. This is not outsourcing...no jobs are being sacrificed. In fact, jobs are being added to be able to administer the codeshare. And folks...don't be fooled....this is one or two people wrting these negative posts....there can't be that many dumb people out there that can't see how this is a good thing for SWA and it's employees and Customers.