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SOUTHWEST - AN AWFUL AIRLINE (Cont'd)

VeryUnsatisfied
Explorer B

Hi all,

I wanted to reopen/restart this conversation since a seemingly-random Southwest Employee decided to prematurely close the thread. It seems like they are now proactively trying to discourage productive conversations amongst customers, as their cascading, catastrophic failure has come to light.

 

I want to thank everyone who has contributed to telling the story of the ongoing debacles here on Southwest Airlines own community feedback board. Considering the incredible responses I received on this board, and the substantial negative exposure Southwest has been receiving in the national news recently, it is clear I was not alone in my awful experience flying Southwest Airlines this past weekend, and that my inconveniences were actually relatively minimal. I was extremely saddened to hear of the family with three small children who did not have clothes and to hear of all those who were unable to spend the holiday weekend in the comfort of their families, because of the malfeasance of the airline.

 

I really hope everyone was able to have, and is having, a warm, safe, and enjoyable holiday and New Years.

 

BTW, I did not mention it, but I had medications for a chronic illness in my checked baggage (the format makes carrying them through TSA pretty difficult), which were impossible to replace on short notice over the holiday weekend in a winter storm. I have been suffering withdrawal effects of stopping some of those medications in the last 5-6 days.

 

Additionally, I do use Apple airtags, to the poster who suggested that-- and, as I stepped onto the plane and took of my jacket, realized it was in my pocket and not in the checked bag. The comment actually felt like rubbing salt in my own, stupid wound. That said, while it would have provided peace of mind and maybe saved the 30 minutes standing around at the baggage claim area, I'm not sure it would have helped much in the way of actually retrieving the baggage.

 

Re: tracking baggage using barcodes, and the fact that the attendant seemed to know exactly where the bag was when asked, the bag was removed due to a 'weight imbalance' and Southwest's system knew from the moment we taxi'd down the tarmac where the luggage was. As someone who works in tech, the comment that implied it would take an enormous capital investment to make this information available to passengers via the Southwest website or app is absolutely ridiculous. They even ask this in the customer feedback form: 'how would you like us to provide updates on where your bag is?', SMS/Email, etc. It seems like they are already thinking of implementing some kind of customer-facing tracking system; this needed to have been done yesterday.

 

It absolutely should not have taken me even the additional, next-day phone call to receive the $100 LUV voucher, or any form of additional customer service benefit in exchange for this inconvenience (worth noting- I actually still have yet to receive it in my email, as they said I would, btw). It 100% should have been offered up-front by one of the three separate customer service professionals I dealt with. It also is a company voucher, which I can only use if I ever choose to fly the company again (or if we assume they aren't class-actioned out of existence when they fail to reimburse passengers for all of the baggage and flights they've mishandled this past weekend).

 

UPDATE: it has been 5 days without any update on the bag, so I will be filing a claim immediately with Southwest and intend to replace every and all items that were lost, as I need them for the upcoming week and Southwest has not provided any type of ETA or status update on the baggage. I read the Contract of Carriage closely and will not exceed the $3800 limit. The truly criminal part of all of this is that it requires me to come out of pocket in full and trust that the airline will actually reimburse me in some kind of speedy time. I do not have that much faith in the carrier and do not have so much disposable income to come out of pocket all out at once to replace lost items.

 

To some of the responders:

@TheFloridaGuy - As far as I am concerned, you are a remarkably compassionate individual and the champion of the thread. Your comments in my defense were truly appreciated. Thank you.

 

@TheMiddleSeat - I truly did not appreciate your lack of compassion or the tone of your earlier posts. It actually made me sad to see someone freely defending such a significant corporate entity (which, it turns out, did royally mess up for the better part of the last week), and I would encourage you to broaden your viewpoint to better understand the perspective of others.

 

Southwest: You very, very obviously, messed this one up. It will be interesting to see how and/or if you can recover, as this also, apparently, is not the first time that this has happened. DO BETTER. And, if it turns out you really cannot be trusted to follow through on the obligations of the Carriage of Contract, can you be trusted to safely transport or even interact with customers at all?

 

Again, wishing everyone reading or posting a safe and happy holiday season. Please keep the conversation productive. Southwest, please fix this immediately, or get out of the transportation business.

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Re: SOUTHWEST - AN AWFUL AIRLINE (Cont'd)

VeryUnsatisfied
Explorer B

@floridaguy

Re: SOUTHWEST - AN AWFUL AIRLINE (Cont'd)

VeryUnsatisfied
Explorer B

Re: SOUTHWEST - AN AWFUL AIRLINE (Cont'd)

VeryUnsatisfied
Explorer B

For anyone who hasn't caught up on the news yet, this was not an industry-wide failure due to the weather. It was isolated to Southwest, which is having issues recovering. No wonder they shut down the earlier thread, what an absolute PR *NIGHTMARE*:

 

https://onemileatatime.com/news/southwest-airlines-cancels-flights/

 

https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2022/12/26/southwest-airlines-flight-attendants-say-theyre-waitin...

 

https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2022/12/27/southwest-denies-rumors-it-plans-to-park-the-fleet-in-... 

Re: SOUTHWEST - AN AWFUL AIRLINE (Cont'd)

TheMiddleSeat
Aviator A

@VeryUnsatisfied I do not have much compassion for those that demand, scream and shout, and are otherwise rude, especially to others trying to help. I have tried to be realistic and sometimes those answers are painful to hear. This will all take time to sort out and lots of patience will be required. Like many others, I would like to get home and I personally have faith and believe that things will be made right in due time. 

 

For more information about refunds, rebooking, and other items here is an FAQ Southwest recently linked to in an email they sent out.

 

--TheMiddleSeat

Re: SOUTHWEST - AN AWFUL AIRLINE (Cont'd)

Suebedoo
Explorer B

Hey TheMiddleSeat...   to whom did this e-mail go out to? During my 'only' two-day ordeal in Portland, OR, I received no notifications from SW other than way-late text messages telling me that my flights were delayed, and then cancelled. 

 

Being an apologist for communication fails from the corporates falls on deaf ears here (mind you, many of the SW folks on the ground at the airports went above and beyond trying to help).

Re: SOUTHWEST - AN AWFUL AIRLINE (Cont'd)

TheMiddleSeat
Aviator A

@Suebedoo I received the email around 1030pm central time. As I do not work for Southwest I have no other information about who the audience was. Emails to thousands of people can take time to rollout or may also be filtered as spam. 

 

--TheMiddleSeat

Re: SOUTHWEST - AN AWFUL AIRLINE (Cont'd)

Suebedoo
Explorer B

I don't wish to continue this unproductive thread, but I'll say that after four days now, I've received no e-mails from Southwest (been a steady customer now for about 20 years!) about any travel disruptions, and yes, I check my spam bin regularly...

This whole debacle has been a corporate communications failure

 

p.s. thank you for the direct link to the refund info, though!

Re: SOUTHWEST - AN AWFUL AIRLINE (Cont'd)

VeryUnsatisfied
Explorer B

@Suebedoo I don’t view it as unproductive at all. The original thread predicated a catastrophic situation for the airline that has now become national news and has officially warranted a USDoT investigation. This thread is at the forefront of a major, national conversation about a business’ major debacle… on the business’ own feedback board. Perhaps I am mistaken, but it seems one incentive for the employee who called it unproductive and closed the previously thread (which had more engagement by far than any other) could just be that they clearly do not want more customers to publicly share more stories resulting from this complete, objective, and likely unavoidable failure. 

 

https://www.axios.com/2022/12/27/transportation-department-southwest-airlines-flight-cancellations 

 

Southwest is a total disaster. I smell a major class action lawsuit or some other type of consequence on the horizon for the airlines and it’s executives. Scrapping what I assume is already a worthless return ticket and booked a new flight home on United.

 

 

Re: SOUTHWEST - AN AWFUL AIRLINE (Cont'd)

Suebedoo
Explorer B

@VeryUnsatisfied understood, I agree with you - I was actually referring to my back and forth with @TheMiddleSeat. He/she mistakes being called an apologist for being an actual employee or spokesperson for the corporation. Yes, we all understand the difficulties faced by all of the airlines at this time, it's just that Southwest hasn't been able to handle things as well as the others.