11-11-2008
07:08 PM
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>>>So because they are leased they must not provided a job for you in the GO
Has nothing to do with it.
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Surprise how did I know that you work in the GO. Yes I understand that we are not retiring THOSE particular aircraft because of THIS particular codeshare, and I realize that nobody is being directly laid off. The apples to apples comparison that you cannot seem to understand while we are growing ZERO which equals about 80 jobs per aircraft (including GO jobs) we choose to use a competitor to grow our route structure (zero GO jobs). I could care less if we ever fly to Canada or Mexico. What I do care about is increasing our presence with our aircraft, and crews. All I hear is that there are so many places that we could fly to here in the US...OK let's do it. How is zero growth while allowing other companies to do fly that we could EASILY do accomplishing that. If not there then where?
What this is is a simple cost effective way to give our future coworkers jobs away to someone who will do it for much cheaper. You are fooling yourself if you think that those jobs are ever going to come back. I have not called you any names, but I think that you need to get out into the real world of this industry that we work in, and give me one good example of an airline that this has been a good things for the employees. That is the real REALITY.
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11-11-2008
05:33 PM
4 Loves
>>>>And when my family of 4 boards the "LUV" leg of our flight on one of the Canyon Blue birds at LAX or FLL or wherever the link occurs, I trust that the smiling crew that greets us will remember that it was my credit card that paid a few bills that day.
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That's part of the problem. Gary wants to sell tickets without the "LUV Leg" as you call it on one of our airplanes via Southwest.com. You buy a ticket from LAX to Mexico all on another airline, making Southwest no better that the travel agency at your local mall. But no worry, I don't really need a job I guess, as long as that ticket cost $10 less.
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11-11-2008
04:17 PM
1 Love
That's one of several leased -300s SWA are being returned to their lessors. With new -700s arriving, the net fleet growth is flat. All of this has been in response to slowing economy, and has been openly and previously dicussed, and you'll note that there haven't been any layoffs.
If you're going to cite facts, how about doing so in the proper context instead of the disingenuous way that you have?
Reality Check — Tue, 11/11/2008 - 14:33
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So because they are leased they must not provided a job for you in the GO. Good to know. Question...What has Gary said our net growth might be next year? That's right 0%. So instead of taking our new deliveries and extending the leases on the -300 providing jobs for many people, we are going to return aircraft and grow our route structure through different companies. How's that for outsourcing. Question...What has Westjet said their growth going to be next year after the codeshare news? That's right 15%. How about Volaris? About 20%. So good old Southwest 0%, Westjet 15%, and Volaris 20%. But that doesn't matter, you already have YOUR job. How's that for a reality check?
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11-11-2008
01:31 PM
1 Love
To all of you who are confused as to why so many employees thing this is a very bad thing, let me just say this. No one here wants to go to Mexico or Canada just for a "good vacation location" like someone earlier wrote. Most of us could care less were we are going, as long as we are growing. If we were growing as fast as we could, it would be one thing to codeshare, but we aren't. For those of you who work in DAL, just look at the aircraft with the white painted over the tail. Those are airplanes that we are getting rid of while announcing that we are going to us a different company to do flying WE could do. Those airplanes equal JOBS. I know it doesn't seem like your jobs in the GO depend on those airplanes, but they do. This isn't just about pilot and flight attendants. Everybody should be worried. If you work in dispatch, how would you feel if the company said we are going to keep all of you, but all future dispatchers are going to be hired in Mexico into our Mexico dispatch office. (By the way, how did the OPS center work out for you all?) How about we open a Canadian Res center? or an Indian business office? I'm not a huge union guy, but I know a bad thing when I see it, and this is a bad thing. We grow ZERO (GO and all), and we subsidies another company's growth. WAKE UP!
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11-10-2008
06:05 PM
1 Love
Warrior Spirit...Really??? I guess Gary needs to rethink the company's mission statement. It would probably be cheaper for you guys to just close up the Dallas base too, and sell tickets on American. All you would need is a computer. In fact why don't you just polish all of the airplanes silver because guess what, you have just become every other failed legacy. Great Job on becoming American Airlines!!!
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