"BTW211, You say F9 pilots were being selfish. I don't think so. Since they decided to fight and not just lay down and take it. Yeah so you are right they are selfish they just saved the jobs for every single F9 employee in all stations. Iam so glad they were selfish. Iam glad you all chose not to be selfish and fight for your rights and for the company."
Let's not kid ourselves. F9 pilots were not concerned about everyone else's job. They were concerned about their own seniority number and seat. Bottom line. It's always and always will be about the pilots. I didn't hear about GK worrying if the MX or DX unions were able to work out a deal.
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"Frontier said the plan calls for it and regional unit Lynx "to maintain normal operations" as a stand-alone Republic subsidiary. Because of that, Denver travelers may see little change. But the deal is huge for Republic."
I don't think F9 employees have to much to worry about now other than possible pay cuts.
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This quote from a news story sums up my point that it's just about the pilots and no one else: "None of the other unions at Southwest have been asked to create an integration agreement with Frontier. "
“Frontier pilots need to look at the facts,” he said. Republic has said it would operate Frontier separately from its other regional jet operations, but Republic replaced all the pilots and planes at Midwest Airlines when it bought Midwest this year and could do the same to Frontier’s operations down the road, Mann said. "
Frontier is not a regional airline and Republic can't just step in and replace the planes and capacity that F9 has, like the Midwest situation. As for the pilots' contract that remains to be seen. But again, RAH doesn't have 600 Airbus qualified pilots milling around ready to take F9 jobs. Lynx may be a different story altogether, but the Lynx pilots are not protected in any way.
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This also shows that being the highest paid isn't the only factor when considering quality of life at an airline.
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Congrats to F9 for keeping their company alive and not bowing to the pressure of SWAPA. WN kept saying they are concerned about the employee culture. Translation: we have to make sure all the pilots, and only the pilots are happy or we're out. It took a lot of guts for FAPA to say no we're not going to give up our entire career to start over, and by doing so also saved the jobs of many a mechanic who were told by WN you won't be coming along when we own you.
Sadly, pilots think that they are the only workers who make an airline run smoothly. And apparently so does GK. This sounded more like a pilot union merger than the purchase of a bankrupt airline.
I look forward to F9 continuing their operation and Denver and keeping WN from taking over. It's a good opportunity for Republic to create a stronger airline with strong employees with good character and morale, and nice clean airplanes with TVs and assigned seats instead of the cattle call rush by the sketchy folk trying to save a buck.
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Paua,
I understand and appreciate this busy time for you! I just hope that all involved in the process are considering all groups and not just the pilots, which sadly seems to be the norm in the airline business. My understanding right now is that WN has told the Teamsters that represent the mechanics were told yesterday only a handful would be brought over out of 450 with no seniority at all. Wondering what will happen to the dispatchers since they are represented as well.
I'll look forward to any info you can provide.
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Hi Paula,
Were you able to look into the questions I posed on 8/12 at 12:47 PM?
Thanks
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