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You're conflating many different issues here.   1.  HIPPA rules state they cannot demand indication or proof of disabilities.  Therefore they can't enforce mask rules beyond what they are.  If someone claims asthma, they can not wear a mask.  Plain and simple.   2.  FAA rules limit projectiles in the cabin during takeoff and landing.  They CAN enforce those rules.   3.  That leaves telling people to stay seated and separated during deboarding.  Yes, I wish they would harp on this one to make people get a clue.  Of everything they can do, keeping people from standing cheek to jowl would be very effective in reducing transmission.   Your best bet otherwise?  Sit on the window seat and wait for the herd to deboard before you stand up. ... View more

I get it now.  You're purely fixated on the term "valuation".  Yes, that means something to SW, but what points are worth to us is something different.  You're talking SW apples, I'm talking customer oranges.  I think most of the people here concerned about their travel funds are more concerned about oranges.  Fine.  I won't use the term valuation if that perturbs you.   And thanks for explaining a bunch of stuff I already knew.  Yes, you elucidate it better than I do.  That wasn't my point.  My point was getting the question answered, which I'll state again...   So, you agree we'll be making money?  Doesn't that seem strange to you?  SW will convert our fees paid for taxes to points, and then let us use those points to buy flights without taxes?  I suppose THEY aren't losing money, it's the government.  Some loophole where the government doesn't get to tax reward fares?   Therefore, it's an opportunity to buy points for the best possible price., or another way of saying it, is you can prepurchase a bunch of flights at base fare price without taxes.  Extending the tax holiday, if you will.  With the aforementioned benefit of unlimited refunds, offset by the disadvantage of losing TQP's.   Are we in agreement now? ... View more

Great!  I'll make money on this.   $49 ticket paid with cash. Returned to travel funds worth $49 Your conversion rate of 1.28 cents per point earns me 3828 points. I use those points to book the $49 fare over again for 3033 points.   I have 795 points left over.  Glad you did all the heavy lifting on the math.  Thanks!    PS.   You can say points didn't get devalued all you want.  But when a flight costs me the SAME price in cash, but MORE points, then I can certainly say the points were devalued.  Maybe using your above nonlinear complex math, they didn't.  But I'm still out points due to some change.  If you would like to tell me where those points are hidden so I can get them back, I'd appreciate it. ... View more

@stayinalive2020 wrote: I would like this flight attendant to be identified and publicly shamed.  Thought you might find this interesting...   https://www.amazon.com/So-Youve-Been-Publicly-Shamed/dp/1594634017 ... View more

Just look at the idio...er....people and shake your head.  Maybe eventually they'll get a clue.   So far, in my experience, they won't.  At least most of them won't.  They are gleefully oblivious standing 2019-style up against their neighbor.   More reason to grab a window seat.  No butt in your face, ever. ... View more

Yes, I am comparing cost to value, because they have a lot of similarities.  Most of us make these sorts of calculations many times a day.   But you bring up a good point, since they devalued points due to the tax issue.  But it seems on my check that they are "back to normal" from what I can tell.  (I lost points on a trip I booked before, then they cancelled it, and didn't tell me.  When I rebooked it, the price in points was higher).    A $49 flight is only 3033 points, so 1.6 cents per point (again).  A $160 flight came out to 1.4, since taxes aren't linear.  You must have calculated your value on a more expensive flight to get 1.28.   So it appears there isn't a "fixed" rate.  A cheaper flight would result in fewer points per dollar, a more expensive flight more points per dollar.   They'll have to fix it to a certain value.  If it's 1.28, then you could "make money" spending those points on cheap flights.  If it's 1.6, then most people will lose value. ... View more

Give them a call.  They may be able to covert them over.  Or just wait for the RR points conversion. ... View more

Point well taken.  I know it's not the SAME thing, but the recent sale in points had me fixated on the relative value of "regular" price vs 45% off.   Indeed, transferring travel funds to points "at the current rate" would by definition be at "full value".  It just so happens to be about half of what it would normally cost you to buy points directly.   So the only value "lost" in the transaction would be the accrual of additional points on the travel funds if used to book a flight directly. ... View more

Sorry to hear about your experience...but wow, you certainly had me captivated.  Sadly, this sort of story is all too common these days, but it definitely makes a different impression when related so eloquently.  Forceful in its softness, if you will.   If you needed  a job selling ice to Eskimos, you could probably get it.  😉   I hope your next flight is better.   If I find myself sitting next to you, I expect a good yarn. ... View more

Hmmm...blaming or even attributing this to SWA is like blaming Disneyland if you experience racism from the guy standing next to you in line for the Matterhorn.  They have no control over who buys a ticket, and little control over  bad attitudes on their premises.    Associating them with said behavior and/or expecting them to police every microaggression isn't realistic.    You can't make laws against being an jerk. ... View more

Ha, good to know it's not just me.  😁   There's some logic to it, we just probably don't know what it is.  Well, I guess it keeps things exciting.    I'll admit, though, I'm getting a little spoiled being able to move my flights around.  Having to plan three weeks or more out?  How 2019.  Well, there's always same day standby. ... View more

Yeah, that's what I would have expected.   But it definitely comes and goes for me.     I thought it was probably all gone, but then saw it was offered last night.   Then today...poof.   Glad I moved my Hawaii trip a few days ago when they extended the quarantine.   Doesn't look like I could do it now.    Guess I'll check tomorrow.    ... View more

This seems to happen to me often enough, usually due to flight changes or other issues which are even more common these days.    As stated, your safest fallback is a phone call.   But also trying the website vs the app sometimes clears up the issue.     Not so easy these days when we're all running around on our phones, but worth a try.  ... View more

No, I'm reading EXACTLY what was stated.   You are the one making assumptions.      But you're probably right.   I'm assuming people are smart enough to maintain logic,  state things clearly, understand rules and follow them.   Current modus operandi is to make a stink online whenever things don't go your way.   At that point, facts are merely roadblocks. ... View more

No, he only decided not to go when the quarantine was extended.   So as written  he'd still be going if he could do fun things.     Sounds like he's not too broke.   Yet SWA has to change their rules for him? ... View more

I hope they do condone it.   If you find it unprofessional, fly a more boring airline.     If you find it dangerous,  stop worrying about what other people do in their spare time.   Or you better start complaining about every extreme sports video on the planet.  Didn't you realize they are all much MORE dangerous?    Sigh...  ... View more

Your companion pass is good through 2021.  So, you got almost a year more than most people.  In fact, if you keep up your CP, you'll only get a year added every time you meet the requirements.    So, you're really not doing that bad.   Many others would love to have your problems.  ... View more

Why was he going to Hawaii if he has no job and couldn't afford the ticket? ... View more

As you probably know already, middle seats are open through July.   And social distancing will be followed during boarding.    But apparently Covid has a parachute and jumps out just before landing.    Because social distancing isn't the slightest concern during deboarding.   Amazing how mindless people get as soon as that seatbelt sign goes out.   Sigh... even a global pandemic can't remind them to relax and be the slightest bit courteous.      I hope the FAs will start reminding people.... hopefully with just enough SW snark to make them think twice before making a mosh pit in the aisle.  ... View more

I lost the bubble on this.  So if my Companion is A-list, should there be any issues with going standby?  Sounds like it should be okay. ... View more

Where exactly were they not meeting your expectations for racial issues?  I don't recall any complaints about this issue, nor have I ever seen any myself. So if you are saddened by something, I'd be interested to know what it is.  I think making comments like this without substance are baseless and unfair.  They didn't otherwise have any involvement with the recent issues, so why do you feel they need to be associated with them? ... View more

My sympathy for your inconvenience.   I'm glad it's quite rare with SWA, much more so than other airlines who make a habit of it.   Considering it happened to you almost 2 years ago,  it appears it was indeed an anomaly.  Maybe that's why they aren't so well equipped to deal with it.    Considering you're still harping on a four hour delay almost two years later, it seems you aren't either.  ... View more

You've now seen another example of why the average person is merely of average intelligence.      Chances are half the people on the plane are below average.   I guess the other half just follow suit without thinking.    I just sit there trying to figure out how most of them will make it home safely.   The world out there is so much more complicated than deplaning.   We may never know... ... View more

Your fake account and repetitive ramblings aren't funny anymore.    Wait, they never were.  ... View more

I think what you're saying is let people use or exchange their booze coupons for free wifi.  Yes, I agree this seems like a great idea.    I'm not sure how free wifi is otherwise implemented...do they have vouchers they hand out with one-time codes?  If so, swapping them out would be painless. ... View more

And that 2900 miles is probably over $200-300 on gas, plus about the same or more in wear and tear on your car.   Could EASILY cost you over $1000, including food and lodging.      I'm flying to FLL for$100, and will be there in a few hours.   Not a very hard decision in my book.   The politeness of the SWA employees more than makes up for the inanity of many of the passengers.    But now that you're done trolling an airplane forum and getting your validation, don't forget to change your handle to something more apropos.   I have suggestions if you need them.    Judging by your past posts, I'm sure you're just messing with us.   Happy Friday.  😃   Ps...I do want to drive across the country someday, but not whilst I have my Companion Pass.    ... View more

Except....SWA said they would let travel funds be converted to points at the current rate.   Therefore, the value would no longer be restricted to the one flyer.  When they will implement this capability is TBD. ... View more