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SouthWest Stun Gun Policy

54nustra
New Arrival

Hello SouthWest Community,

 

Pardon my long post but I am curious on what SouthWest Airline's policy is when it comes to Integrated Lithium Battery Stun Gun(s) in Checked Baggage. My fiancé was checking in for her flight within the states and she had a Stun Gun she planned on bringing for self defense in her checked baggage. Two representatives at the counter have denied her checked baggage until the Lithium Battery Stun Gun was removed. Since Stun Guns are not allowed in carryon, then she cannot take the stun gun with her. I tried to search around in the forum and policies and I cannot find much information regarding the ban of Stun Gun and Lithium Batteries under 100Wh on SouthWest Airline. I read through TSA policies regarding Stun Gun:

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/stun-gunsshocking-devices

 

and Lithium Batteries less than 100Wh:

 

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/lithium-batteries-100-watt-hours-o...

 

So far, I tried to read through SouthWest Policies regarding Stun Guns and Lithium Batteries; besides Pepper Spray ban by the airline, there are no restrictions regarding Stun Guns that I can find. The Lithium battery used by the stun gun can not be used as a power bank, and it is an integrated battery within the device so it is not a loose or spare battery as stated here in the battery section:

 

https://www.southwest.com/html/customer-service/baggage/special-luggage-pol.html

 

The battery does not appear to be damaged, defective, nor was it recalled. Even if viewed as a PED, the policy states that:

 

"...the device must be switched off and measures must be taken to ensure it cannot be accidentally activated when placed in checked baggage."

 

However... stun guns are not PEDs; they're not firearms/ammunition. So after all the stuff I typed out to this point, are they considered a Smart Bag? Just for the fact that it is a device with integrated Lithium Battery(the stun gun is NOT a BAGGAGE that contains the integrated battery though)? Or is this a misrepresentation of SouthWest staffs on their policies?

 

I'm asking this question in hoping to achieve a conclusion for future reference and for future customers that will be or wishes to fly with SouthWest that may have this question in mind (I couldn't find much regarding SouthWest Airline policy on integrated lithium battery powered stun gun). The only thing I saw about Stun Gun was an answer in the Pepper Spray post which the person was rejected service for trying to bring on stun gun/taser and/or pepper spray. If there are any references, please post them!

 

Thank you.

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Re: SouthWest Stun Gun Policy

dfwskier
Top Contributor

Well, it appears that the FAA would allow it in checked baggage:

 

https://www.faa.gov/news/fact_sheets/news_story.cfm?newsId=23054

 

The prohibition on lithium batteries in checked baggage applies to loose (spare) batteries and certain items with an established history of battery ignition. If it's good enough for the FAA, it should be good enough for the airline.

 

I'd suggest that you contact customer service to get a formal ruing. I'd suggest getting it in writing so that you would be able to show a wayward Southwest employee who does not

understand.

 

https://community.southwest.com/t5/Knowledge-Base/Contact-Customer-Relations/ta-p/108355

 

 

Re: SouthWest Stun Gun Policy

gsking
Rising Star

Agreed.  TSA really determines checked bag security protocol.


My advice...meet the TSA restrictions and don't offer details to the ticket agents that really don't matter and may confuse them. 

Re: SouthWest Stun Gun Policy

disneykids
New Arrival

According to TSA: Tasers, Stun Guns, and Electro-Shock Weapons (Conducted Electrical Weapons) must be transported in a manner that renders the device inoperable from accidental discharge. Some of these devices are manufactured with lithium batteries. 

 

Given this, it would seem that if you take the batteries out of the weapon before packing in a checked bag; then just carry on the batteries. Since there is no specific prohibition with Southwest, and why would there be if the device is basically a hunk of useless nothing, then I don't see any necessity to report it when checking baggage any more than a tube of toothpaste. So long as you are transporting the battery safely in a carry-on bag and it passes through TSA, all should be fine. You may want to keep this link handy in your phone (or printout) in case you are questioned to show your guidance on the matter.

 

Stun Guns/Shocking Devices | Transportation Security Administration (tsa.gov)

Re: SouthWest Stun Gun Policy

Wandanista
New Arrival

It is an integrated battery, which cannot be reminded...just like mine. I, too, need the same info. 

Re: SouthWest Stun Gun Policy

Wandanista
New Arrival

Hi..I have the same issue you had. I am traveling at 3:00 am tomorrow, alone and taking uber to airport. I want to pack it in my checked luggage when I arrive at airport but I do not want to violate the rules. Did you ever find a satisfactory answer to your question?

Re: SouthWest Stun Gun Policy

dfwskier
Top Contributor

going back to what was said earlier in the thread, the operative words are:

 

Tasers, Stun Guns, and Electro-Shock Weapons (Conducted Electrical Weapons) must be transported in a manner that renders the device inoperable from accidental discharge. Some of these devices are manufactured with lithium batteries."

 

My read is that if you can do  that, then it's fine  in checked baggage.  If not, it can't fly with you.

Re: SouthWest Stun Gun Policy

DancingDavidE
Top Contributor

Bring a postage paid envelope with you and drop it in the mail on the way to security?

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